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The City of Tacoma launched its SAP Business Suite ECC in 2003, providing a foundation for several of its public services, including Tacoma Public Utilities. Over 20 years later, it was due time to refresh its outdated technology landscape.
Christopher Orgeles, Senior Solution Architect for the City of Tacoma, and his team started its transformation journey in 2023, gaining budget approval to look for partners that could assist with the work; the RFP process took about a year. “Being a local government, we have to go out to bid,” and they selected HCLTech in the summer of 2024, officially starting the project that September.
The City of Tacoma is now live on SAP BTP, SAP S/4HANA, SAP Customer Experience (CX), and RISE with SAP in 2025. The city also uses SAP for Public Services and SAP Industry Solution for Utilities (IS‑U). “The city runs all of our business through SAP,” he said. Orgeles will speak in a session at SAP for Utilities, Presented by ASUG, sharing more of the City of Tacoma’s digital transformation journey.
Challenges and Solutions
“It was a fairly hectic project,” Orgeles said. He said that one of the more difficult parts of being a public entity is the budgeting process. The City of Tacoma works on its budget every two years, but implementing RISE with SAP has required some changes along the way, affecting the database size or the need for additional servers, leading to “a lot of nickel and diming.” Getting approval for a budget can be difficult already, and is made harder by unknown costs.
Another budgeting issue that has arisen came out of doing a Bill of Materials for RISE without a systems integrator. Orgeles told ASUG that SAP said the city would not have to pay for its on-premises instance, but that was inaccurate. Still, they are paying a lower rate than originally. “We’re going to have to pay that until we get off of ESS and PI, unfortunately.”
Ultimately, the RISE BoM cost $10.7 million from 2025 through 2030, along with HCLTech as an SI that cost $12.5 million.
To save some money for the project, the City of Tacoma worked with Gartner, which examined other SAP contracts and helped negotiate a better deal, saving the city millions of dollars. “It was really helpful to have someone who knows this stuff,” Orgeles said. We also dedicated a large number of business, IT, Project Management, and OCM resources to supplement cost.
Staffing was another challenge. With more than 100 consultants, 70 of whom were offshore, there were a lot of people to bring together to solve problems. There was also key talent from the City of Tacoma leaving to retire or work elsewhere, taking important knowledge with them.
These workers knew how to manage various operating systems and databases, but making sure the work is done isn’t as worrisome now that SAP has a whole team working in the background for the City of Tacoma’s technology instance. SAP’s enterprise cloud service and technical service managers make sure patches and upgrades happen seamlessly, reducing reliance on specific internal team members. “It’s managing as opposed to knowing,” Orgeles said. “There’s less dependence on superstars and [instead] you have a whole team.”
Testing, Training, Iterating
The City of Tacoma conducted four cycles of testing for this project, with a strong reporting structure under the project management team for the technical aspects. Three tests were with core business users, then hundreds using the system for the final test. Orgeles shared that the team had good defect tracking, risk logs, and issue logs, making a logical path for escalating issues to project stakeholders.
Change management at the City of Tacoma required some changes of mindset. For example, some of the Tacoma team used SAP GUI for 20 years and still wanted to use the old transactions in that system, as opposed to Fiori. Getting 2,000 employees to understand which transactions are obsolete was a struggle at first, Orgeles said.
Through lunchtime learning sessions and a Q&A page that outlined the changes, people using SAP at the City of Tacoma got up to speed. Orgeles highlighted the timing of training as a challenge; if conducting training too early, individuals are likely to forget what they need to know, but the teams working on the digital transformation were deep in the weeds of the project and trying to meet deadlines, as opposed to building training. Ultimately, training took place a month before go-live. The team still gets questions eight months later, so they’re working on refresher courses to solidify knowledge.
What’s Next for City of Tacoma
Next up for this project is correcting some technical debt that arose. While SAP Service Cloud Version 2 was out when this initiative began, few were live on the system, so Orgeles’s team opted for Service Cloud Version 1. Now, they’re exploring moving to the latest version.
Widespread interest in artificial intelligence hadn’t quite taken off in 2023 when the project began, so the City of Tacoma is exploring what they can use. They’ve implemented some Copilots and Claude POC’s, and recently did a business case for Joule in the development environment. The technical team will also need to set security standards for its future AI engines and models.
Orgeles expressed interest in using AI, but wants to first understand use cases that would be helpful to the city. “We want a clear direction,” he said.
Advice for Fellow RISErs
When asked what advice he has for others working on digital transformations in SAP, Orgeles said that having someone knowledgeable on RISE with SAP is important — especially in the planning phase. Because his team didn’t have an SI early on in this project, they didn’t have a realistic understanding of how it should be built, the additional cost for chargeable items in RISE, and the time needed to provision and complete a Service Request.
He also recommended that organizations encourage their experts to look forward, rather than getting caught up in the day-to-day work. They’re working to keep up with business needs, but it’s hard for them to have time to look to the future and plan for advanced technology.
On a related note, Orgeles advised giving teams time to work on projects. “There are a lot of tired people; there are a lot of burnt-out people,” who were not taking much vacation during the project. But then when go-live happens, the floodgates open with even more work and questions coming from throughout the business.
Orgeles also recommended networking to learn more about SAP projects — not just looking for a new job. “Talk to all the people that have done it before you. Make friends with them. Build networks,” he said. Then, leverage their knowledge and apply it to internal projects.
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